Author Topic: CITROEN & PEUGEOT galerija  (Read 369 times)

Offline tuningmaniak

  • Posts: 0
    • View Profile
CITROEN & PEUGEOT galerija
« on: April 28, 2008, 12:04:34 PM »
Evo sam rijesio da izbacim ovaj topic zbog svoje velike ljubavi prema Francuskim vozilima ::wub::.Citroen BX 19 GTI 16v, Peugeot 405 Mi 16 i Renault 21 Turbo!Tri modela koja su krajem osamdesetih ucinila bum medju limuzinama sa jakim motorima. Ovo su auta o kojima se i dan danas prica kao o necem sa drugog svijeta. U to vrijeme nije bilo mnogo proizvodjaca koji su mogli ponuditi udobnu i sigurnu voznju u kombinaciji sa okretnoscu, ubrzanjima, jakim motorima. Oni su slobodno mogu reci prethodnici svih danasnjih jakih limuzina tipa S4, Octavia RS, Alfa GTA, i ostalih. Spadaju grupu vozila ca ciji bi upravljac opet mnogi vrlo rado sjeli. Auta sa dusom, kojih danas nema, tada je bilo dosta al malo onih ovakvog tipa. U inostranstvu postoji mnogo klubova o ovim vozilima, medju kojima neki i danas prave paralele izmedju ovih modela i nekih novih i nabrajaju nedostatke (naravno ovih novih). Kod nas nazalost ti modeli nisu imali skoro nikakav uspjeh. Najvise zbog glupog i nerazumnog zaziranja od Francuskih vozila, njohove osjetljivosti i skupoce odrzavanja. Prema mojim saznanjima BX GTI kod nas nije nikad doveze, ima par 21-ica Turbo i two komata 405 Mi16. Prava steta!Tada se radilo o cistom fabrickom tjuningu, bez chipova i ostalih zezancija kojima se lako dolazi do KS. Motori su ojacavani, mijenjane bregaste, radjene glave, i sve to da bi se vozacu pruzilo nesto sto ce ga dobro zagolicati. Njohovi motori su savrsetnstvo koje je malo koja fabrika mogla ponuditi u svojim modelima. Po meni nesto najljepse sto je ikad jedna fabrika mogla ponuditi su ova tri modela!Dugo sam skupljao informacije i slike i planirao sam odavno izbacit ovaj topic al ka za baksuza izgubim CD sa svim i svacim o ovim modelima. Sada Vam pokazujem samo trecinu od onagoa sto sam skupljao tokom ranijih godina a posto nesto i nisam raspolozen za kucanje prikazacu Vam samo neke osnovne informacije o njima a za opsirniji opis svakog ponaosob cete "malo pricekat".!I jos jedan razlog postavljanja ovog posta, da pokazem omladini i ostalim GTI fanovima, da se pod famoznom GTI oznakom ne skrivaju samo Golfovi modeli, vec tu ima i mnogo drugih modela koji su duplo bolji,a pruzaju mnoooggggoooo vise uzitka u voznji!!!!!prvi na udaru Citroen BX GTI 16v (ili 16 soupapes):Kockasta karoserija i puno konja na prednjoj osovini obiljezje su gotovo svih GTI modela s kraja 80-ih. Ono sto izdvaja BX iz te gomile je hidropneumatsko ogibljenje. Prvi put proizveden 1982godine, GTI verzija 1986, motori od 1,9 litara sa snagom koja se kretala od 105ks pa do najace verzije sa 160ks (u verziji sa katalizatorom 148ks).1905cm3, 160ks/6500 o/min; 177Nm/5000 o/min; 0-100km/h za 7,9s, V-max: 218km/h; masa 1043kg; postojao u verziji 4x4;I par slicica:Peugeot 405 Mi16:Ovaj model karakterise skoro sve kao i BX sem hidraulicnog oslanjanja. naime peugeot je pristupio nesto razumnijoj varijanti klasicnog trapa sto mu je dalo dodatnu stabilnost ali i vecu ojesljivost na neravnine. Motori su se ugradjivali kao i u BX-a, a neke od najjacih modela karakterisao je 4x4 pogon kao u BX-u.Nazalost vise informacija nemam trenutno dostupnih - dopisacu cim nesto otkrijem.Evo i nesto malo slika:Renault 21 Turbo/Turbo Quadra:Po meni sto se izgleda najljepsi model od svih predstavljenih. Decentni fabricki opticki tjuning, jak motor od 2,0litara, otvrdnuto podvozije, neke verzije sa Quadra 4x4 pogonom, prostoran i udoban kozni interier bili su preduslov za uspjeh. Od svih predstavljenih jedini je imao Turbo motor sto je omogucavalo da iz dvolitarskog motora razvije snagu od 129kw/175ks, ubrzanje 0-100km/h za 7,5s; V-max: 227km/h iz cega mozemo zakljuciti da je najbrzi od svih.Postojala je i prigusena verzija od 119kw/162ks sa ubrzanjem od 8.6s i V-max: 217km/h;Ni ovdje nazalost nemam vise informacija al ce biti ubrzo.Za sad evo slicica:Za sada toliko od mene, ako imate Vi kakve foto ili jos bolje neke info o ovim navedenim modelima mecite ih u ovaj topic!!!!!!
« Last Edit: December 15, 2008, 02:04:17 AM by motorsport »
TDI nije trkacki motor, al umije bit djavolje brz!

Offline eto tako

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 0
    • View Profile
CITROEN & PEUGEOT galerija
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2008, 12:09:38 PM »
Renault R21 T General InformationThe Renault R21 came at a time when many things changed in Renault's car design. The R21 was a clear cut, straight, no nonsense design, it was a modern and functional saloon and it's ride would earn the highest ratings even today. Indeed the R21 is definitely one of the most underrated cars there ever was. Such superb was its ride and comfort that, believe it or not, its successor, the Renault Laguna, could hardly better the R21 - and the Laguna is absolutely reknown for its fantastic ride! But more so, the R21 Turbo was the first turbo charged Renault with an OHC camshaft layout - yes, all the incredible R5 versions were UHC! More, Renault was one of the first brands to market FWD, yet they regularly featured longitudinal engines, a strange layout combined with FWD it seems nowadays. The R21 came right at the time this was to change and as a result the R21 is probably the only car ever designed that was available with longitudinal as well as transverse engines - the R5 changed to transverse engines following a face lift, but with the R21 the diesels and the 2.2 petrol were longitudinal, all other engines transverse in one and the same model and year of car! But coming to rally terms, the R21 was indeed made in a version called R21 Turbo Quadra - a turbo 4x4. This however was a limited edition road car with production numbers too small for group A & group N homologation, such a serious return of Renault to the WRC was eliminated by the rules. Funny enough this fate Renault shared with Peugeot: The R21 Turbo Quadra and the Peugeot 405 T16 where both turbo 4x4 cars limited to 400 units (405 T16 = 1000 units but over 2.5 years = 400 per annum), which would have been sufficient for group 4, but not for the post 1987 regs. And both these brands were full of criticism when the FIA changed the WRC from group B to group A. Both Renault and Peugeot now claimed they created these cars as homologation specials and would return to the WRC if it wasn't for the required 5000 units per annum! Only the FWD version of the R21 Turbo was produced in sufficient numbers and with FWD there seemed to be not much point in a powerful group A version - again a similar fate to Peugeot, where only the non-turbo 405 MI16x4 was made in sufficient numbers for modern homologation. However here the Renault solution was better than Peugeot's opposite option. The R21 with turbo but without heavy 4x4 was far more of a sports car than the 405 without turbo but the heavy and torque eating 4x4 drive train. The group N version of the R21 Turbo however was superb and famous, it only had one problem: it stayed in the shadow of the group N R5 GT Turbo! Nevertheless, compared to the R5 GT Turbo the R21 Turbo had a 2.0 engine that "only" produced 175BHP but an amazing 270NM torque. Bozian actually had an R21 Turbo up to 245BHP, still based on the group N car, which only shows what could have been possible with some group A development. However a group A project was never suported, so the car was officially never more than group N. The torque could easily make up for weight and size and made the R21 a serious contender in the faster and more flowing stages. The car came to major fame in French regional events with drivers as Michel Rats and Philippe Bugalski. Bugalski also took the car to WRC events, but he failed to prove the car's potential, twice he had to withdraw following road accidents! One of the most interesting driver pairings in the WRC ever was on this occasion: Rallye Monte Carlo 1990, #0 course opening car, R21 Turbo, driver Jean Alesi, navigator Jean-Marie Ballestre.

Majka mi je rekla da moze ...



Offline vuki

  • Posts: 0
    • View Profile
CITROEN & PEUGEOT galerija
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2008, 02:11:12 PM »
najljepsi francuz ever 406 coupe  ::wub::

Offline vuki

  • Posts: 0
    • View Profile
CITROEN & PEUGEOT galerija
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2008, 05:56:45 PM »
slazem se da francuzu nisu vise ono sto su bili, jbg vremena se mijenjaju moj stari je veliki fan cuvenog spaceka  jao

Offline stefan123

  • Posts: 0
    • View Profile
CITROEN & PEUGEOT galerija
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2008, 05:59:11 PM »
Quote
Stefane eh kako volis da naglasis sve sto ima Italijansko porijeklo bogo moj!!!!! Da ti nisi u stvari neki Italian boy pa se lazno predstavljas ka da si odavde?Huh? ::msn-wink:: Sala mala!!!
Italijane ka ljude nesto i ne volim...bar te sto znam ali da su ludi jesu i da su tate sto se tice dizajna to se mora priznati...Ajkula...ima je poznanik jedan...poginu prije par mjeseci u saobracajnoj nesreci..Bila je kao nova...Ovaj malisa je slaTak...
\"sportsko auto (bio to golf ili merc)\" by tmanijak

Offline eto tako

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 0
    • View Profile
CITROEN & PEUGEOT galerija
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2008, 12:43:26 AM »
Renault i ...1898. prvi automobil1900. prvi trkacki automobil1900. prvi kombi1905. prvi motorni camac1905. prvi taxi1906. prvi kamion1906. prvi autobus1907. prvi avionski motor1911. prvi izletnicki autobus i omnibus1913. prvi motor hidroaviona1914. prva ambulantna kola1914. prvi avion1916. prvi tenk1919. prvi traktor1919. prvi putnicki avion1921. prva lokomotiva sa komprimovanim vazduhom1923. prvo vozilo s gusenicama umesto zadnjih tockova1924. prvi 4X41929. prvi traktor sa metalnim tockovima1930. prva automatska pumpa1931. prvi autobus sa zadnjom platformom1931. prva motorna kola1939. prvi poštanski avion1952. prva lokomotiva sa gasnom turbinom1984. prvi jednovolumen1998. prve snežne sanke2000. prvi elektricni bicikl

Majka mi je rekla da moze ...



Offline brzi_pas

  • Posts: 0
    • View Profile
CITROEN & PEUGEOT galerija
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2008, 05:14:33 PM »
GS je onako auto, nikad nije bio nesto posebno, zato sto je niza klasa, ovo posebno kazem, "nista posebno za citroen", a za ostala auta je bio "cudan" (inace svi sa "hidraulicnim" vjesanjem su mogli da se voze na 3 tocka...)DS je "ajkula" a neki su ga zvali "zaba" i auto ne da je dobar, nego je napravio toliko revoluciju u automobilizmu, da nijedan nikad nece dostic taj novo inovacija (i ludosti)Inace, kad smo vec kod "moj stari", moj je zaljubljenik (bio) u CX-a, imali smo ih jedno vrijeme 10tak ispred kuce i oko kuce... od 2.0 benzinaca, preko dizela do najjacih benzinaca (imali smo i jedan karavan)... taj auto je isto bio zverka, naslednik DS-a i predhodnik XM-a
Nobody move, nobody get hurt!

Offline eto tako

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 0
    • View Profile
CITROEN & PEUGEOT galerija
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2008, 05:35:42 PM »
Uh,nemam ni snage ni vremena ... evo odje neke slike bijelih renolA pa ko voli nek izvoli ... http://www.flickr.com/photos/hungry_must_eat_food/page5/

Majka mi je rekla da moze ...



Offline Filip

  • Posts: 0
    • View Profile
CITROEN & PEUGEOT galerija
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2009, 03:07:53 PM »